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What is a Liberal?

August 9th 2008 19:44


What is a Liberal? Well in this post I will try to answer that by what the word means to me. And I know a blanket statement about all Liberals isn’t wise. And of course all Libs are not like this, completely anyway.

A Liberal wants you to be controlled by the government because he/she thinks you are too dumb to make decisions about your life. From the temperature in your house to what you watch on television, to what you listen to on the radio. Liberals feel you are too stupid to make that decision for yourself.

A Liberal wants to keep people from being paid what they should for being successful. They would have no company show a profit in America if they could do so. What money is made, the Libs would give to the poor people. They would never reward but would rather punish initiative.


They scoff at God and anybody who believes in him. It is ok for Muslim Terrorists to attack the United States because we deserve it. But if the Baptists want to have a convention, Libs go all to Hell (if there is such a place).

Liberals want America to go down for being the dominant country in the world for so long. They feel it is other countries time to shine. So what if Communist China has a terrible human rights record? They deserve to be on top of the United States.

Freedom of Speech is a terrible thing to MOST Liberals. They do not want you to listen to talk radio for fear of you agreeing with it.

Often they hate the very military that protects their rights as Americans to complain about the military.

Liberals think you should never ever defend yourself against a criminal. Guns are evil and should not be used to protect your family or property. Guns are on good for criminals to own. Since they have been under educated and oppressed their whole lives. You have too much stuff anyway and should be glad to give it to some poor person with a gun.


And no we can’t execute criminals; if they killed somebody it is ok. It was probably a capitalist pig with too much stuff anyway. It is much better to kill unborn babies than to kill a killer. After all it is a woman’s right to decide if her baby lives or dies. If it were possible to ask the baby’s opinion then the damn little critter would probably be against abortion.

As America gets more liberal every day, the phrase “Going to Hell in a Hand basket” comes to mind. Go ahead vote Democrat in November, and help ruin this once fine nation.


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Comment by Jim Stillman

August 9th 2008 19:57
Randy, you really are a challenge to my liberal "free speech" position and my invitation to one and all to question my leftist views. (If you think SL harsh in her opinions, you should listen to some of my relatives who make her almost wimpy.)

I have previously explained what I believe, as a "liberal", although I am not claiming to speak for all who identify themselves as "liberal".

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It's interesting that at the time of that post SL was willing to engage in conversation-argument. The fact that she fears to do so now is revealing.

Anyway, your viewpoint is always welcomed here.

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 01:06
Oh dear.

And that, in a nutshell, is why America is in such deep trouble.

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 01:17
I already fixed America in my make me the King thread.

Comment by Janet Collins

August 10th 2008 12:19
And I thought my liberall tendancies were just about everyone having a fair go!

Comment by S.L.

August 10th 2008 13:25
LOL Job well done, Randy. And totally accurate!

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 13:44

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 14:51
Well there you have it Randy. Bradish agrees with you.


Game over.

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 14:52
A measure of how smart someone is, is by how much they agree with you.

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 14:56
Honey, you think Obama is a Communist.

She thinks he is a Muslim.

You two deserve each other.


The rest of us will get along just fine in the real world.



Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 14:58
Perhaps he is a Muslim Communist?

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 15:03
Well only if I can be an atheist Christian.

Makes as much sense.

Do you really believe all that crap you wrote about liberals? Or are you just making a bad joke? Because I can seriously tell you, the Bradishes of the world do and I hope (for no other reason than that Jim, who I respect a great deal has decided to share his blog with you), that you don't.

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 15:10
The article is about perceptions about Liberals some I feel much more strongly about than others. The biggest one to me is not understanding how somebody can be for abortion and against the death penalty.

That is putting the right to live for a criminal above that of a fetus. And it makes me sick to be honest.

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 15:23
Okay, I can't speak for anyone else but I can tell you how I feel.

Abortion: The fetus is not a fully developed human being,. it has no sensory awareness ( I am talking about the first trimester here), does not feel any emotion or have any cognitive functions.

Furthermore, its development will come only at the detriment of another human being- the woman whose body it inhabits. If the woman does not want it and she is forced to carry it to term, then what you have is a situation where the "rights" of an undeveloped 'human' who has no connection or experience of the world are given priority over the rights of a fully developed human being whose life will be irrevocably altered by the fact that she is forced to give birth. In other words, the fetus has no idea what is going on. The woman does, therefore, her life and her wishes should be given priority.

Death Penalty: It's not really about the criminal. The issue is what does it say about us, as a race whereby we can take away the life of a fully developed human being because we THINK we have the authority?? Does that not make us murderers also? What if they are innocent? You must know as well as I do that there are a great deal of people who have been put to death for crimes they did not commit.

Dead men walking know that they are about to die. they have memories and feelings and fears. None of which a fetus has.

There is no comparison.

Isn't it funny how people's minds work in different ways? Because when I think of people such as yourself and Bradish, I think, what hypocrites, how can you call yourself prol-life when you love war and think legal murder is ok?

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 15:33
I have a 17 year old son going in the Marines next year. I have a 16 year old who plans to join the Air Force. Show me a freaking post I made that says I love war.

And I would gladly get rid of the Death Penalty if Abortion went away with it.

However I can see that an unwanted child could be abused and that is a point in favor of abortion. However some may say it is better to be abused than never born. I am not sure of my opinion on that point.

One of my sons is related to a woman who set her baby on fire and burned it to death. So tjhat baby would have been better off aborted than going through that.


Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 15:42
Okay, I apologise for saying you were pro-war, a bad presumption on my part.


I don't think you can equate the Death Penalty with abortion. Terminating a zygote or fetus is not the same thing as the ritualised murder of a sentient human who is fully aware of the fact that they are about to die. That is the key- knowledge and awareness.

And yes, those examples you cited demonstrate that, sometimes. and I stress sometimes, abortion is the best option.


Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 15:46
The woman who burned her baby to death did not get the death penalty which shocks me. Her excuse was she was mad at the baby's father.

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 15:52
Yeah, I've been hearing a lot lately about people killing their kids to get back at their (ex)partners.

Recently in Australia a man drove his car into a lake, with is three young sons aboard, drowning all of them (on father's of all auspices dates). He was found guilty of murder and the judge declared he did it in order to cause anguish to the boys' mother. Amazing.

I guess the death penalty depends on the State she committed the crime in? Also, her mental capacity at the time?


Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 15:57
We have the death penalty here in N.C. I was told that she has a very low IQ and is almost retarded and that it played a part in her not getting the chair. I didn't know the family (she is the first cousin of my son's mother) when it happend. But I think she has been in prison for at least 15 years now.

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 16:05
Eeeek. Well there you go, she was probably not fully aware of what she was doing.

To be honest, I actually think life imprisonment is a worse penalty than death. Oh there are those few terrifying minutes when they prepare you for death and then kill you, but then the pain is over. Being locked up for years on end with no chance of release, knowing you will never experience freedom again- that is real punishment.

I think its time we see the death penalty for what it is- vengeance, pure and simple.

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 16:09
I agree with you to a degree. However life if life and if it is denied to a victim, I think it should be denied to their killer.

However I mean in only cut and dried cases where there is no doubt of guilt. I shudder when i read about how DNA now proves innocent people were executed for crimes they didn't \do, years ago.

For some people a life of confinement would be worse than death. But it bothers me to pay for the imprisonment of somebody who will never help society in any way.

Comment by RubySoho

August 10th 2008 16:18
Well the interesting thing is that the death penalty is not really a deterrent. Countries that execute criminals generally have higher rates of violent crime. I'll have to go digging up some references for you to back that up...and yeah, I'm hearing more and more about cases where people were executed only to be found innocent many years later. I just cannot imagine what it must feel like to be living your final moments, about to be killed for a crime committed by someone else, who has just gotten off scott free.

About paying for the incarceration of others, I guess there is always the hope of rehabilitation. I know it is uncommon, but sometimes people really do manage to turn their lives around in jail. Maybe I'll go digging up some stats on that too..but right now it's late and i need some sleep....

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 16:20
If he or she is serving life in prison rehabilitation become a moot point.

Comment by Jeff Musall

August 10th 2008 17:41
Wow....your post isn't even close to describing liberalism or liberal thought, but that's to be expected. I will make a comment about being "pro-war," though - you state you have a son going into the Marines - knowing what we know about how we went into Iraq, knowing that it was not one big lie but many - knowing that our president is, by objective defintion, a war cirminal - to volunteer for service under those circumstances is very much pro war.

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 21:33
Ok I am NOT going into the Marines HE is. Both boys are actually my step sons but I consider them my sons.

I don't understand how my son going into the Marines makes ME pro war. I could not prevent it and I did try. But I won't condem him for it you don't have to bash people who go into the military to be anti war.

You libs don't get that part though. Both sons are going into the military, mostly to pay for college.

Comment by Jeff Musall

August 10th 2008 21:42
I understood it isn't you going in, and I can appreciate that you tried to stop it- that said, I can't see any justifcation for going in at this time - sure, it's great to pay for college...note - us liberals would like university education to be more affordable or free, something to consider..
But to go into the military at this time one has to understand that there is a chance they will become involved in an illegal war. I did four years in the Navy myself and am by no means anti-military. Just anti really bad use of the military...

Comment by Randy Inman

August 10th 2008 21:46
I think the war against the Taliban was justified but the war in Iraq was not. Although Sadam did have weapons of mass destruction, our government gave them to him.

Comment by Brenton

August 11th 2008 09:32
You forgot to mention they eat puppies.

Never forget the puppy eating.

Comment by DeAnne

September 30th 2008 15:03
WOW - I read this thinking it was a post by Jim, and was shocked. By this definition, I would most definitely say that I am NOT a liberal. I don't think the definition is completely accurate, but I also think that most people (my self especially) don't fall neatly into any definition of either liberal or conservative. Liberal or not - I agree with the "hell in a hand basket" part. The politicians are taking us there, no matter what side of the isle they're on.

Comment by Randy Inman

September 30th 2008 22:04
i am actually one of Jim's multiple Personalities!

Comment by Jim Stillman

October 1st 2008 01:57
Just for the record, and I think that it is obvious, Randy and I disagree on many, many things. I have invited Randy to post on this blog because there is one thing on which we do agree: that people with different viewpoints ought to have a forum where these differences may be explored, with mutual respect. I am not responsible for or necessarily in agreement with any post other than my own!

Having said this, I repeat my invitation to anyone who wans to become a member of this blog to click on the invitation or send me a message. The only restriction is that the conversations/discussions be held without being nasty to each other. There are no restrictions on the content.

COME AND JOIN US.

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