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October 13th 2008 14:50
How Barack Hussein Obama can be this close to the Presidency of the United States of America sickens and amazes me. We won’t even discuss his inexperience here that is well known. And that can be excused if he would surround himself with quality advisors with the country’s best interest at heart. But he has been advised by crooks and people who hate America. But the “Change” he will bring is ok because he is the Messiah to a bunch of atheists. Let me list the group of scumbags Barack Hussein Obama is or has been associated with.
Now not all of these are current advisors to ole Hussein but some are. And the rest showed he was willing to associate with anyone to further his political career.
William Ayers a former member of a domestic terrorist group responsible for setting off bombs and attacking people who had did them no harm. Yes I know Obama was 8 when Ayers and fellow scum were killing people. But Ayers is unrepentant and never paid for his crime. Obama still was willing to use him to further his political goals. Also Ayers and Obama have teamed up to award money to at least one questionable group.
Jeremiah Wright was Obama’s pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Obama attended this church for over 20 years. But he never once heard Wright’s Anti American, anti Jew or Anti White statements. Do I think Obama is an avid follower? No he used the church for political gains and abandoned it. I think Obama is an Atheist since he complained about Pennsylvanian voters clinging to their guns and religion. Thus he clearly has a problem with Religion or at least Christians.
Heck just read this blog; it is a partial list of Obama’s unsavory associates. Or click here to find out more about Obama’s ties to the vote fraud specialists in Acorn. I could go on and on and but why waste the time. I think everyone has made up their mind about who they will vote for.
If you are undecided and are reading this. Do your own research and make up your mind. I decided a long time ago that McCain is better than Obama and his list of unsavory associates.
Now not all of these are current advisors to ole Hussein but some are. And the rest showed he was willing to associate with anyone to further his political career.
William Ayers a former member of a domestic terrorist group responsible for setting off bombs and attacking people who had did them no harm. Yes I know Obama was 8 when Ayers and fellow scum were killing people. But Ayers is unrepentant and never paid for his crime. Obama still was willing to use him to further his political goals. Also Ayers and Obama have teamed up to award money to at least one questionable group.
Jeremiah Wright was Obama’s pastor at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Obama attended this church for over 20 years. But he never once heard Wright’s Anti American, anti Jew or Anti White statements. Do I think Obama is an avid follower? No he used the church for political gains and abandoned it. I think Obama is an Atheist since he complained about Pennsylvanian voters clinging to their guns and religion. Thus he clearly has a problem with Religion or at least Christians.
Heck just read this blog; it is a partial list of Obama’s unsavory associates. Or click here to find out more about Obama’s ties to the vote fraud specialists in Acorn. I could go on and on and but why waste the time. I think everyone has made up their mind about who they will vote for.
If you are undecided and are reading this. Do your own research and make up your mind. I decided a long time ago that McCain is better than Obama and his list of unsavory associates.
America deserves better than Obama can offer
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do that make me a serial killer?
i know people who have been in jail, i know members of the Socialist party, and i know homophobic bigots
does that make me any of those things?
if you want to know what Obama thinks about something you should probably ask Obama, not a friend of a friend of his
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Few people know what Obama thinks because what he SAYS changes daily.
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If the answer is yes to the questions above then you are quilty if the answer is no then you are not. But Obama does and he is quilty.
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Lester wants to know if you're "quilty." Quilty? Is that a person who is obsessed with quilting?
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For his part Obama denounced Ayres radical past. But he also recognises that the Ayres of today is a different person.
As for crazy pastors, give me a break. That's the last place Republicans should go. Anyone wanna go on a witch hunt with Sarah and Mutthee?
Getting desperate now aren't we? Come on what else can you dig up? Everything you have thrown up here is old hat. Bill Ayres blah blah blah, Rev Wright yada yada yada. I'm falling asleep here. What else you got? You are going to have to give the masses something new to fear and despise if you want to pull this rabbit out of its hat.
All i can say is I have a newfound respect for America. That even in the face of all these smears and lies you lot spread about Obama, that he can still be double digits ahead of McCain in the polls. That is an enormous step forward for your country and gives me hope you guys are finally getting it.
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How dare he????? how dare he stick up for poverty stricken black people who have been marginalised all their lives? HOW DARE HE STAND UP TO THE STATE OF ILLINOIS FOR NOT IMPLEMENTING THE LAW! Wanna know who was co-plaintiff with ACORN in that case? THE US JUSTICE DEPARTMENT!
That's from the Republican National Committee website by the way. According to the them, helping disenfranchised black people is a bad thing. I guess only white people should be encouraged to vote?
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Obama was 8 years old when Ayers committed his anti-war protest crimes, i dont see how he could have had knowledge of them or been an accomplice
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Speaking of Barack HUSSEIN Obama has anyone seen this?
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Classy huh?
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The Republicans say he associates with criminals, they say he is practically a demon because he is not a right wing Christian, they keep emphasising his middle name is Hussein, they can come up with as many reasons as they want to voice out loud but the real reason is he is black. Full stop.
I also think many people that say they will vote for him actually won't - why? Because he is black. They would never say it out loud because they would never admit their underlying racism but they will say it with their votes.
Just look at the link Ruby put up.
I'm not saying that all Americans are racist - of course they're not but a large majority are, even if they aren't openly.
Damn I hope I'm proved wrong. Because the thing that scares me more than just about anything is Sarah Palin getting anywhere near that kind of power. Now she is frightening. McCain would be about as effective as Bush but Palin is downright dangerous simply because she lacks the skills and the ability to govern a nation should it become necessary.
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Jeff it seems you are prejudice against the South, I thought you liberals was for freedom of speech, free to express one's ideas, but I guess that only applies to killing babies, same sex marriages.
Cheryl you are wrong this election is going to be stolen by ACORN, of which Obama is affiliated. You want to talk about dangerous, Barack HUSSEIN Obama has no record or experience except for running for president for two years. He is still wet behind the ears.
And who said Ayres didn't kill anyone he was accomplice to 7 deaths by weather underground. Morgan he may have been only eight when Ayres was doing his dirty work, but how old was he when he started his associations, and was hired by Ayres. What if Osmana Bin Laden said I have stopped being a terrorist would you have business dealing with him?
Did you all know that Obama was a trainer, and counsel to ACORN, and gave 800,000 out of his campaign to ACORN who is now in many states under investigation for voter fraud, and you have the nerve to talk about Republicans.
What blind people you are not to see what a very dangerous man Obama is, not that his is a terrorist, but someone that has no judgment, no record, no experience. FYI I liked that billboard, it not racist it's free speech, just like the mean and hateful things said about Bush and other republicans.
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I totally agree with you about Palin. Honestly, she frightens the crap out of me and if people think America is unpopular now, just wait and see if that woman gains any kind of power. I have read that she may be planning to run for Prez herself in 2012 if McCain loses. The scariest thing is if he wins, then surely he will not be going for re-election and you know what option that leaves...
A couple of weeks ago I totally agreed with you, I didn't think Obama had a hope in hell but now I'm not so sure. More than anything people are worried about their hip pockets and keeping their homes and when it comes to the economy it's the Democrats they trust. I hope you are wrong but part of me still fears you are right.
And that sign is tame compared to some of the videos of Palin rallies I have seen lately....
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Also those seven people that died, they were members the Weathermen who were killed when a nail bomb they were making exploded. So no, Ayres did not kill anybody, they killed themselves.
p.s. It really cracks me how ACORN is suddenly the root of all evil. There is nothing there, nothing. The Republicans are creating a scandal out of nothing.
Comment by Lester Caudill
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Like that billboard just like Hussein Obama likes saying our troops air raided civilian villages and killing innocent people on purpose.
This election is going to be stolen by ACORN, with the help of Obama since they are affiliated.
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I just got all the proof I need by the other comment aimed at me that had to put Barack Obama's middle name in capital letters. If that does not scream racism, fear-mongering and hatred nothing does. When do you ever see McCain referred to as John SIDNEY McCain? You don't because both their names are irrelevant. They did not choose them, their parents did. The tactic is small minded and bigoted.
Unfortunately, I don't think the issues, or affiliations or experience or anything that should make a difference when it should, whether it is Obama's or McCain's, will. The fact is Obama is black and McCain is white and when it all comes down to tin tacks the white candidate will win. It would happen if the Republican were black and the Democrat white. Many of the Democrats who are all rallying behind Obama will either not actually vote on the day or they will secretly vote McCain - and it will all come down to racism, both outright and hidden.
I seriously hope I'm wrong.
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do you think the Mayor of Chicago and the Chancellor of the University of Chicago are terrorists too?
its like saying all members of the NRA or the U.S. Army are terrorists because of the actions of Timothy McVeigh
Ruby,
that billboard is ridiculous!
i really think when it comes to public spaces and mass broadcasting/advertising there should be standards regarding materials designed to incite hatred
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Senator Allied with ACORN as Recently as 2006, Now Turns Cold Shoulder
October 13, 2008, Miami, FL - U.S. Senator John McCain's recent attacks on the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) are puzzling given his historic support for the organization and its efforts on behalf of immigrant Americans. As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College – Wolfson Campus.
The rally, co-sponsored by ACORN in partnership with the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC), Catholic League Services – Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia/Vota en Accion, the Service Employees International Union, and UNITE/HERE, was intended to call attention to the need for comprehensive immigration reform.
Senator McCain spoke at the rally attended by hundreds of ACORN members, most of whom were dressed in the red shirts typical of its members. Senator McCain's speech focused on the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, a bipartisan, comprehensive reform bill, which McCain sponsored with Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA).
Bertha Lewis, Chief Organizer of ACORN, said, "It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans. Maybe it is out of desperation that Senator McCain has forgotten that he was for ACORN before he was against ACORN; he was for immigration reform before he was against immigration reform; and he was a maverick before he became erratic. We were thrilled to partner with him to help reform the outdated immigration laws in this country, and were pleased to work closely with him on this issue."
Lewis continued, "We expected Senator McCain to support our efforts to give voice to millions of Americans who have never participated in an election before. We are surprised at his efforts to vilify an organization that, until recently, he saw as an ally. Maybe this surprise attack and change of heart is indicative of his state of mind, and the way he would govern."
Senator McCain and his campaign have recently launched a series of coordinated attacks on ACORN, the nation’s largest community organization of low-and moderate-income families.
Ms. Lewis went on to say that, "We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform."
Senator McCain was joined at the rally by Rep. Kendrick Meek (D-FL), Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (R-FL), leaders from both political parties, immigrant communities, and members of labor, business, and religious organizations.
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As Anna pointed out, McCain was affiliated with ACORN too - but I'm sure the republicans will find a way to make that all sound nice, while still bashing Obama for his association.
I, for one, can't wait until this whole thing is over. I'm just sick to death of hearing all the lies - rumors, smears and fears. And I'm REALLY sick of hearing Obama's middle name. My father's middle name is CLINTON - but he couldn't be more different than our former president - especially with regard to treatment of women. (I'm not bashing him, but we can all admit he's been a womanizer.)
I'm all for free speech - for everyone - but free speech doesn't make it OK to slander anyone. I respect the reasonable statements for or against the ISSUES. Why do some have to resort to name calling and fear mongering?
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The real issues are voter fraud by ACORN, which is supported by Obama, terrorist connections, no experience, bad judgment, and no good record, that is what we all will have to deal with if obama is elected.
Cheryl I don't have a middle name, I guess that is why I am so fascinated with middle names. Obama has a real unusual one so it just sticks out like the twin towers.
Should Barack Hussein Obama be a shamed of his middle name? Does it make him a terrorist? No why are you all a shamed of his middle name and afraid when someone uses it, it's not a curse word get over it his parents gave it to him to be used.
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You are a racist Lester and the sad thing is you don't see anything wrong with it.
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It is not racist or prejudice to believe someone is wrong for a position, what you all can't stand is you know I am right. I wrote a post about racist if you don't vote Obama, and you are white trash if vote John McCain and Palin. You want to inject racism where there is none and it will not work with me.
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Puts things in perspective doesn't it?
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But he has always used whatever scumbag he can associate with to help his goals. If he gets in office those favors will be called in, and it can't help America.
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you seem to have arisen quite a bit of emotion here.
Every thing about the associates has been pretty much debunked. I am glad you had some fun..that's why I love freedom of speech.
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Although you have not done this yourself, you are guilty of using his middle name in your post and the only reason I can think that you would do that is to be inflammatory. Otherwise why have you not included the middle names of everyone you wrote about in the post?
Yes, Obama has a middle name that is popular in Middle Eastern culture. So what? It is totally irrelevant unless it is being used in an inflammatory context.
You are obviously angry about who Obama associates with but as the link JoshZ has put up shows, both parties have questionable associates. Does that make them personally guilty of anything?
Also please provide me with ONE single quote where Barack Obama has said anything against Christians, just one. And every single politician, including McCain use groups etc to further their own cause. It's called politics.
Lester, nobody is ashamed of Obama's middle name, especially him. I just question why you all feel the need to use it if not for racist purposes. Once again I reiterate, why do you all not use the middle name for each candidate for both the presidency and vice-presidency when writing about any of them - only the black man with the foreign sounding middle name. That speaks volumes.
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But thinking that billboard that I linked to is appropriate does.
That you can't even see how racist you are is mind boggling.
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Why couldn't the billboard get its point across without having a caricature that draws on racial stereotypes of blacks and Arabs? Why does it emphasis his middle name?
Because its underlying message is not simply about Obama's policies. It is highlighting his differences. He is personified as the "other". Someone you cannot trust.
It's fine if you disagree with his policies. That is your absolute right. By why focus on his colour and his name? Why the turban?
As for moveon.org you will have to be more specific with that. And with Obama's quote on the military.
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Thats right I said it!
Obama is nothing but an "uppity" nigger. Send him to school and he's thinking he can get into the white house. What's next? Voting for Fido the dog?
You can't expect idiots in New Yawrk or Maihne or even Las Angeleees to understand, but it's true as it can be. Niggers will always be niggers, fighting "whitey" every step of the way. Take a look at his history. He's a fucking fool. No great legislation, just "Give money to my nigger friends" every step of the way.
I say take him to the white house. Then string his ass up in a tree and let the mexicans have at him with pinata sticks.
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But using someone's middle name is not racist, or at lest not were I am from here in the real world.
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Can I ask why you feel compelled to refer to Obama by his middle name? Is it because you think it has a nice ring to it? Or is it because you want to link him to the Muslim world? Because you want to keep reminding people that he's not like them?
Be honest.
Randy, as far I as have read ACORN is being investigated for voter registration fraud not election fraud itself. It's not the same thing. That's not to excuse it but it really does not amount to trying to steal the election.
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And Ruby did show her dislike for the picture of Palin. I remember it because I gained much respect for her, when she did.
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I don't beleive he has changed much since then, do you?
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whether or not people have been offensive towards Palin or McCain does not alter how much racism is being directed at Obama . . .
its not a competition where we judge offensiveness relative to other offensiveness - all discrimination is unacceptabl
its not like racism suddenly becomes acceptable if the other candidates are being slandered too
if the question is "is race playing a significant role in whether people will vote for Obama?" the answer is clearly YES
Randy and Lester,
ticking off "liberals" and getting under the skin of "liberals" seem to be strange motivation for purposely misleading and perpetratrating the racist myths about Obama's connection with Islam and Terrorism
i dont know what your definition of a "liberal" is but if its someone that is offended by the unnescessary highlighting of the name "HUSSEIN" then id say a "liberal" is someone who is offended by racism and attempts to incite racism
if you are not offended by racism you should really get with the program, there is no place for it in a civilised society
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No, no racism there. God, you people are unbelievable.
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And FYI Obama played and is playing the race card it's not republicans injecting race into the campaign, it's everyone of you that cry racism when there is none.
Do you know what racism is, I don't see the KKK attacking Obama here, Well yes I do see prejudice here and it coming from the Obama supporters against Conservatives. I guess you all think Louis Farrakhan, because he sure supports Obama and called him the messiah, and Obama thinks highly of Mr. Farrakhan.
People actually have concerns about him becoming president no matter what color he is. If he was white as snow I wouldn't vote for him, he is a dangerous man.
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And your comment about the twin towers was so disrespectful both to Obama and to victims of 9/11. Please just take a moment and think about what you wrote. It makes about as much sense as saying that your name or Randy's name or even Morgan's name sticks out like the Oklahoma City buildings.
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We are constantly called racist because we don't want to vote for Obama. That is both insulting and stupid. And to toss the word racist around like that cheapens the word and what people went through in the Civil Rights fight.
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And again no-one here is saying that if you in particular don't vote for Obama, it means you are a racist. Based on both your politics I would be very surprised if either of you did.
But you absolutely cannot deny that there is a good many people who would not vote for Obama because of his skin colour. And I include liberals and Democrats here, in fact it is most likely to be they would fall into this bracket, since they are the ones you would expect to actually vote for him based on his and their politics.
For example, in Florida "lifelong Democrat" Andy Lacass, put a sign on his front lawn that says "Obama half breed Muslin"
And that's his spelling mistake by the way, not mine. He did call Obama a 'Muslin'.
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That's sort of like saying women can't chew gum and walk at the same time. And I didn't use the blond word either.
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11 people know who William Ayers is or was;
21 people think that the Weather Underground has something to do with the National Hurricane Center;
16 people think it has something to do with earthquakes;
17 people know, within ten years, when the Vietnam War was the object of protests;
Of the people who know about William Ayers, 1 person cares that Barack Obama shared a corporate board with Ayers; and
99 people are concerned about the economy, loss of jobs, and possible loss of their homes through foreclosure.
Senator McCain is wasting his and his party’s money.
The issue that concerns the public is the state of the economy and all the rest is just silly. Lester, SL and friends, get over it. No one cares!
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putting "Hussein" in bold, or capitalising it, or including it where you have not included anyone elses middle name, or (as you did above) ommitting the rest of his name, is all done to imply he is foreign
you are a liar or extremely ignorant if you try to claim otherwise
it is racism because you are treating him differently based on his race, you are not respecting his name or his position, if you were treating him equally you would say Sen. Barack Obama the way his name appears formally, or Obama to be concise
the only legitimate reason to use a middle name is to differentiate between two candidates with the same first name (ie George W. Bush), but im pretty sure there is no other Barack Obama running . . . even in the case of the Clintons people simply referred to her as Hillary to avoid confusion with Bill, i dont think ive ever heard anyone call her Diane
it is the UNNECESSARY HIGHLIGHTING or the IRRELEVANT part of his name which is inconsistant with how you treat other candidates
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Lester, the vast majority of blacks tend to vote Democrat anyhow (as do women. what does that tell you?), so I don't know where you got that figure from. I will contend that Obama will probably give blacks who don't usually vote a reason to turn up at the polls and I don't see anything wrong with that. It's not like there have been a great many candidates in the past who have had their best interests at heart.
p.s Paddy Power, a bookie in Ireland, has already started paying out betters that wagered on an Obama victory. They think it's inevitable.
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And Jeff may all those fraudulent voters will show up and vote for Obama, you people like Mickey mouse, dead people, people in prison, dogs, cats, and maybe even foreigners. Isn't that where he got his money, for people outside the US. Man you talk about voter fraud, and campaign contributions fraud. Why don't we just dig up Al Capone and put him in as president, or that right Obama is doing the impression.
Jim you need to listen to you family, Obama is going to bad for you.
Ruby that was a nice picture you tried to paint, but it is still racism.
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He's going to win. That's all that matters now.
Four more years (at least) of calling him !!HUSSEIN!!
Go ahead. Make yourselves feel better.
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In spite of what Lester says, his is not the traditional Conservative viewpoint but that of a devout person who feels that he has the moral and religious expectation that we should follow his beliefs or be damned.
We are a secular pluralistic nation, each of us free to practice our faith. We have no right to expect our neighbor to act in accord with our beliefs -- but these "others" have values that, to them, are equally valid.
So Lester can refer to HUSSEIN and get glee from upsetting others without his passion, SLB can call liberals "murderers" for believing a woman has rights independent from her fetus.
I suggest: enough already. Enough insults. I promise not to try and convince the far Right to act with respect to my views. I wish the Right would give me the same respect.
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If I attack Obama I get dozens of hits and comments. If I write something neutral like my North Carolina thread, it gets ignored.
Not one person said "Well done" for finally doing an article that covered both sides. I even gave advice on what would work for Obama here.
I have become bitter and slightly paranoid since this election heated up. I honestly feel that we should meet in the middle and not be too liberal OR too conservative.
I think balance really meets the desires and needs of the majority of Americans.
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