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The moment McCain lost the election

October 17th 2008 01:26
After nearly 20 months of primary and general election campaigning, a particular negative campaign at that, the American public was getting impatient. It wasn’t the most negative and nasty campaign in recent memory; the United States’ use of name calling and exclaiming the charterer flaws of opponents in lieu of stating one’s own position continued. After all of that, it boiled down to one comment by John McCain.

The general issue was “abortion”. Senator Obama stated that he has, in the past and would continue in the future, support sex education and teach personal responsibility all to the end that abortion be safe and rare. He added, however, that he opposed legislation banning abortion that did not protect the health of the mother. Decisions as to abortion, the Democrat said, were to be faced and answered by the woman, consulting with medical and spiritual consultants; the mother’s health was a factor limiting the law’s condemnation.


Senator McCain mocked the concern for a woman’s health. In trying to paint Obama as being for the great Republican bugaboo of late term abortions (because, you know, there are so many women running around and deciding after being pregnant for six or more months that being pregnant is no longer convenient for them), Obama replied that he didn't vote for the late term abortion ban because it had no provision for the health or life of the mother. And that's when McCain proved how heartless and clueless his party and its supporters are.


Again…just again, an example of the eloquence of Senator Obama, health (indicates air quotes) of the mother. You know that’s been stretched by the pro-abortion movement to mean almost anything.






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Comment by RubySoho

October 17th 2008 02:34
Did you see the way the snake dipped when he said that?

How any woman in America can vote for him after that is beyond me.

"Health" of the mother? Seriously? Stupid Obama. Doesn't he realise that women are merely incubators? "health" of the mother. hahahahahaha!

Comment by Morgan Bell

October 17th 2008 03:51
i thought that was a particularly chilling moment too - although its basically what all pro-lifers believe so hes probably still got their votes

Comment by Neems

October 17th 2008 05:11
What a way to make his final debate bow.



Comment by KylieW

October 17th 2008 06:03
That sound you just heard was all those female Hillary Clinton supporters suddenly realising that their 18 million votes are going nowhere near McCain!!!!!

Comment by Lester Caudill

October 17th 2008 13:30
An Obama said kill them all even if the abortion fails let the little critters die with lack of medical care.

Comment by Jim Stillman

October 17th 2008 13:47
Lester, no one REALLY believes all that nonsense. The scare stuff won't work -- even if you think it causes reaction. It's over.

Comment by Lester Caudill

October 17th 2008 14:14
But Jim it's true and you know, you can't hide the fact that Obama vote for, and believes if the abortion fails, there should be nothing done to save the infant, he would rather it lay there and die for lack of medical help, and you know that to be true. So REALLY Jim face the truth.

Comment by Morgan Bell

October 17th 2008 15:16
Obama didnt vote to approve the that particular bill because:

a) it was redundant, there were already laws in place stating care should be given, as well as the hypocratic oath all doctors take

b) the particular wording of the bill was designed to acknowledge a fetus as a "person" which would undermine Roe vs Wade

even the Federal bill that was proposed had to be re-worded before it was accepted

Comment by Randy Inman

October 17th 2008 20:31
You mean they moved the election up and he already lost? I knew Acorn was up to no good.

Comment by Postmodern Critic

October 18th 2008 10:55
What a disgrace to Americans John McCain is.

Comment by Lester Caudill

October 18th 2008 13:35
Obama voted against a bill that would have given medical care to infants if the abortion failed, Obama supports infanticide it is well documented just look up the facts Morgan. What do you call a fetus after it is born, it's a human infant Obama wants them to die for lack of medical help if the abortion fails.

John McCain is a patriot, and a real American hero, and Barack Hussein Obama in my opinion is a American zero.

Comment by Jim Stillman

October 18th 2008 14:26
Lester, I grant you that Senator McCain is a loyal and honorable;e American and human being; so is Senator Obama. Your statement about killing infants is simply without basis but if you choose to believe it, good luck to you.

Is this your sole criterion as to loyalty and patriotism? If you believe that, again, good luck.

Please allow others to take a broader measure.

Comment by Morgan Bell

October 18th 2008 14:31
Lester, I have looked up the facts, and I watched the debate where Obama reiterated his position

the Illinois bill that was proposed tried to declare a pre-viable fetus as a person, which it is not

in the Federal bill Democrats insisted the following sentence be added before they passed it in Congress in 2002

"Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this section."

Obama has said he would have supported the Federal bill with its ammendment

in 2005 a "Born Alive" bill passed in Illinois after another clause had been added that explicitly stated that the legislation would have no effect on existing state abortion laws

and just a little more about the bill being redundant:

Illinois already had a law on its books from 1975 that said if a doctor suspected an abortion was scheduled for a viable fetus — meaning able to survive outside of the mother's body — then the child must receive medical care if it survives the abortion. The new laws didn't distinguish between viable and nonviable, meaning that an infant of any age that survived an abortion should receive care.


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Comment by Morgan Bell

October 18th 2008 14:39
heres the video of Obama
and McCain in the debate
so you can hear their own words
from their own mouths
about abortion


Comment by RubySoho

October 18th 2008 14:58
You know what shits me about that video? McCain rattles off about having to show "compassion" to a woman facing this difficult "decision" but he doesn't want her to have a decision! He wants to take her right to decide away.

Oh yuck. The pro-life movement is just yuck. Just go away. Leave me and my uterus alone.

Comment by Jeff Musall

October 18th 2008 17:22
I think the moment was more of a stamp of further failure of a badly failed conservative movement. This election, if counted fairly, is going to be a rout...

Comment by Randy Inman

October 18th 2008 23:38
I doubt we have had an election counted fairly in many years.

Comment by DeAnne

October 19th 2008 23:42
Ruby - that was the same thing that irked me so much about McCain's statement. I guess he doesn't want any woman to have to face the difficult decision - if it's already made for her. I think it's ridiculous to call anyone "pro-abortion." Obviously, no one is PRO abortion - just PRO choice. I was really glad that Obama had the chance to state his positions and defend his votes on national (or global) television. I'm not surprised, though, that the extreme "conservatives" still don't believe what he said. They don't believe he's a Christian either, no matter his declaration of faith.

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